CARY WILLIAMS VS CHIP KELLY
“I believe we’re the freshest team in the fourth quarter,” Kelly said. “I think if you look at what we’re doing in the fourth quarter of games I thought our defense came up huge. Malcolm Jenkins (two) weeks in a row with interceptions in the fourth quarter was big for us. To force them after that short punt to go four straight downs and out at the end of the game and they were close to being in field goal range. I thought the way our whole team played in the fourth quarter obviously shows what type of conditioning we have.”
When Williams was asked this, “We do things differently here, we play a game before the game,” Williams said. “You have to be politically correct all of the time, at all times. You take those words with a grain of salt from last year. My legs hurt. My legs were done in the fourth quarter, in the third quarter, before the game started. I sat out a couple of days and that still didn’t work, because they’re so taxing on us during the week.”
A few other players agreed with Williams, just nodding in agreement, but refusing to comment further. “Let’s just say I’m spent when Sundays come, because it feels as if you’re playing two games in a week,” one player said, nodding his head ‘yes’ when asked if Williams was on to something.
BEFORE Chip Kelly was hired there was a lot made of his conditioning program. At that point Eaglemaniacal.com didn’t exist, and I was still posting articles on another site. In one of those articles (back in early 2013), I voiced a concern for this very situation.
I made the point of saying that I was concerned about the long term effects of Kelly’s training program on professional players, because there are factors that make things so much different at this level than college. For instance in college:
- Rosters are double the size of an NFL roster. Kelly’s 2012 roster had 105 players on it.
- Players cycle through for stays of no more than 4 years
- Players are almost always between the ages of 18 and 23
- Players face sliding scales of talent week to week
Like a used car just off the lot, NFL rookies already have quite a bit of wear and tear on them. They may be new to their NFL team, but they carry with them all the scars from all the battles and surgeries that came before their first pro game.
If a rookie isn’t pristine, imagine what condition veterans of different ages could be in. And now you want to run a 29 year old NFL veteran the way you would a 20 year old college sophomore? It has to be understood that there’s a price to be paid for that.
CB Cary Williams is speaking up about that price, since it’s his body that’s paying for it. According to the previously cited report and LaDanian Tomlinson on NFL Network last night, other players feel the same, but aren’t quite ready to say so yet. Then again maybe they don’t need to.
Last year many players attributed their good health to the training program, while many attributed it to luck. This year with the same program, the EAGLES are seeing an awful lot of injuries, awfully early. That’s not to say or imply that the training program is causing the injuries, just to point out that it’s not preventing them. So that said, why beat your own roster up so much?
The answer is simple: The Defense’s experience is a byproduct of conditioning the Offense to run the system. To run a system that moves this quickly you (duh) of course need players in shape enough to stay on the move. The caveat is that running players this hard is like any other thing you put a human body through, the effects are cumulative.
All over the roster.
The NFL season is a marathon not a sprint. We got out to a fast 3-0, but there is no law that states we will another game this season. Those wins must be earned. Traditionally teams that don’t finish strong don’t generally see the postseason. May not hurt to listen to the veteran.
There are some valid points made here. Me personally, I think that Chip Kelly and the training staff know whats within the limits of these players. Cary Williams and other veterans could also be saying this because they are not used to training like this under their past coaches. Kelly was brought in to change Andy Reid’s lackadaisical approach that had frankly gotten stale around there. We also don’t know what Chip has in store for the future… maybe there plan is to back it down some at a certain point.
I also don’t really see a whole lot of correlation between the injuries sustained so far and conditioning ( as you pointed out) ankle injuries, sports hernias, and suspensions don’t happen because of extra practices. I believe that Cary Williams is a prideful guy that has gotten beat badly a few times in the last couple games and he may need an excuse as to why. If im Chip, I call a meeting of the team, give everyone a personalized smoothie and tell them that if they have any concerns on how we practice, keep it in house…. Go Eagles!
I agree with Kracker. Of course Williams sat out two practices last week, because he complained already. So the week he basically was “fresh” he got smoked. Combine that with the fact Nate Allen sucks as over the top help I think Jackson and Garçon brushed his fragile sconce selecting ego.
So why not start another CB who may be fresher and not get beat, and who won’t complain?
The sad truth is he’s the best they got for the outside. I don’t believe the Eagles think Boykin can play on the outside. In fact I can remember more than a few time Fritzgerald in the slot taking advantage of him.nolan Carroll could be an option, but his versatility makes him a better fit as a backup. Watkins isn’t close to ready to play. Fletcher is too up and down and injury prone. Williams is they’re most consistent sucky corner and his ago/attitude is such an issue that benching him could cause more problems than it would be a solution. The eagles should have done more to address their secondary needs. That’s why I don’t get how everyone was so happy with this last draft. My view is if you targeted six players and you failed to get any of them you failed. I know Ha Ha was one of this players and the Eagles lacked the picks to move up and get him. Now we’re stuck with another year of Nate Allen biting on fakes and out routes leaving his corners to get beat in the post.
I was also not happy with the Draft, and I’ve gone into it on here at some length. I did like the Watkins pick though. He was value for where they got him after a couple of horrendous reaches.
I don’t think Jaylen Watkins is ready, and i dont think Boykin has the size needed to play that spot every snap. Im not saying Williams is a bad corner… he is just a great one. You also got other guys like DeMeco Ryans, Bradly Fletcher, Nate Allen, and Malcolm Jenkins who all played 78 snaps with Cary on Sunday… none of them complained. It’s just baffling to me that he would say something like this after a win… i mean what would he had said if we lost? I like his hard mentality (i think the team needs that) i just wish he would express it like a leader should.
Between the report that I cited and what Tomlinson said on NFL Network,Williams is the only player willing to be ‘vocal’ about it, but both sources said that he’s not the only one who feels that way
Regardless, Williams has said that he won’t publicly badmouth the training program again.
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